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		<title>By: shAdOwArt</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s what I call elimination, I did the same.

There&#039;s another way to do it where you assign a combination of placements on the weighting scale to each ball and determinate the odd one and it&#039;s nature from these. That method can also be generalised into answering the question &quot;Given n balls and k weightings, when is the answer to the riddle &#039;yes&#039;?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s what I call elimination, I did the same.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s another way to do it where you assign a combination of placements on the weighting scale to each ball and determinate the odd one and it&#8217;s nature from these. That method can also be generalised into answering the question &#8220;Given n balls and k weightings, when is the answer to the riddle &#8216;yes&#8217;?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Vlad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vlad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Shadowart:
You&#039;re right, infinity IS such a weird thing :)

Mathematicians have been afraid of tackling infinity for centuries, and then one guy came along and started playing with it, and showed that:
- there are exactly as many even numbers as there are whole numbers (even though logically there should only be half as many)
- there are exactly as many rational numbers (fractions) as there are whole numbers!
- there are MORE real numbers than rational numbers

No wonder everybody gets freaked out by infinity :p

And as for the ball weighing riddle - I&#039;m not sure what you mean by your question. If by elimination you mean trying every single possibility until I came across the right one then no, I didn&#039;t use elimination. If you mean saying &quot;ok, let&#039;s say I put this many balls on each scale. What do I do if one scale is heavier than the other? Mmm ok. And what do I do if they&#039;re the same?&quot;... then yes, I did use elimination.

Did that answer your question at all?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Shadowart:<br />
You&#8217;re right, infinity IS such a weird thing <img src='http://leedsmathgeeks.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Mathematicians have been afraid of tackling infinity for centuries, and then one guy came along and started playing with it, and showed that:<br />
- there are exactly as many even numbers as there are whole numbers (even though logically there should only be half as many)<br />
- there are exactly as many rational numbers (fractions) as there are whole numbers!<br />
- there are MORE real numbers than rational numbers</p>
<p>No wonder everybody gets freaked out by infinity :p</p>
<p>And as for the ball weighing riddle &#8211; I&#8217;m not sure what you mean by your question. If by elimination you mean trying every single possibility until I came across the right one then no, I didn&#8217;t use elimination. If you mean saying &#8220;ok, let&#8217;s say I put this many balls on each scale. What do I do if one scale is heavier than the other? Mmm ok. And what do I do if they&#8217;re the same?&#8221;&#8230; then yes, I did use elimination.</p>
<p>Did that answer your question at all?</p>
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		<title>By: shAdOwArt</title>
		<link>http://leedsmathgeeks.com/2009/why-is-099999-1/comment-page-1/#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>shAdOwArt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s assume a has k ones after the decimal, 10a will then have k-1 ones. There&#039;ll be an error in the k:th decimal, you&#039;re back to 0.9999... To save the proof you has to accept that infinity minus one is exactly equal to infinity. 

Infinity is such a weird thing ~~

Btw Vlad, remember your old &quot;Why I love mathematics[...]&quot; post? Well, recently we were discussing riddles on a Starcraft forums I visit often, so I threw your ball weighting riddle at them. Quite surprisingly for me, one guy came up with an answer that was WAY different from my own. So I got a little curious, did you go by a process of elimination for your solution? Or some kind of system to give the balls identity?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s assume a has k ones after the decimal, 10a will then have k-1 ones. There&#8217;ll be an error in the k:th decimal, you&#8217;re back to 0.9999&#8230; To save the proof you has to accept that infinity minus one is exactly equal to infinity. </p>
<p>Infinity is such a weird thing ~~</p>
<p>Btw Vlad, remember your old &#8220;Why I love mathematics[...]&#8221; post? Well, recently we were discussing riddles on a Starcraft forums I visit often, so I threw your ball weighting riddle at them. Quite surprisingly for me, one guy came up with an answer that was WAY different from my own. So I got a little curious, did you go by a process of elimination for your solution? Or some kind of system to give the balls identity?</p>
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